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Danny Phantom Cancellation Issue

Wed Feb 3, 2010, 9:19 PM
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One of the things I have to admit is that I admire the dedication and determination of fans who cannot accept Danny Phantom's cancellation. Their love for the show feels almost unparalleled and the sense of loyalty and devotion is unquestionable. The only problem I have with some of these fans is that they tend to get so angry and pissed that they often rant and accuse the wrong people and/or gets their facts wrong. This isn't directed to anyone and is just a little rant to set things straight.

1. "They focus waaaaaay too much on Spongebob/Spongebob got Danny Phantom cancelled!" One of the major, major things I see DP fans accuse of is Spongebob Squarepants. They whine and moan about how this show took away DP's limelight, how despite DP's popularity compared to Spongebob, the former was still canned. Where do you guys get the idea that Danny Phantom is just as popular as Spongebob? Where? The reason Nickelodeon splashes the sponge in every product made on Earth and sponsor just about anything minor to it is simply put, the franchise makes them money.

Spongebob Squarepants isn't just popular, it is a phenomenal. It remains one of the most top rated children's children's cartoons and is usually the reason why Nickelodeon dominates kid's markets. Nearly every one of Spongebob's special episodes garners an average viewing of 8 million. Compared to Danny Phantom's "The Ultimate Enemy" which scored 4 million or "Reality Trip" with 3.7 million. And keep in mind, these are only special episodes which tend to be more advertised then an average one. There's a hell of a lot more of these ratings scattered all over the internet that you can fine with simple research - I haven't posted even close to a fraction of it. Do not be surprised to see Spongebob's name frequenting the top cable/top children's show listing. The reason why it's constantly airing? That. It brings in the rating. Has Danny Phantom made it on Top Ten kid's cable list? Of course, but it pales in comparison to Spongebob and doesn't frequent the spot as much as Spongebob does.

For that matter, why is DP the only one getting the victim treatment? Other Nicktoons shows canned during Spongebob's time are My Life as a Teenage Robot, El Tigre, The Mighty B, All Grown Ups, The Xs, Catscratch, and so forth. Now, maybe you don't like these shows and think they're crap, but that's hardly an excuse to think DP is the only show that deserves special treatment. What is one fan's trash is another fan's treasure.

2. "Danny Phantom didn't get advertised enough!" Simply put, Nickelodeon is, first and foremost, a business. That means whatever brings in the rating/money, they are going to focus on first. There have been plenty of ads given to DP during its early heydays, but they decreased in time because the show did not give them the proper ratings they want. Lots of you guys complaining are mostly teenagers/young adults. You guys also forgot that Nickelodeon's PRIMARY target are children. That's why it's the #1 rated kid's cable network, it's why they focus more attention on their target demographic. DP simply did not get that type of audience nor enough ratings to ensure anything beyond three seasons. That is also why DP is often on at 6:30 in the morning. It is still a recent enough show that they can let it rerun in their primary station, but at the same time, finished and done with that they don't have to bother.

Now, I agree. I do believe its severe executive meddling, out of order episode airing, and lack of ads did contribute to the hurt. The most they could do was get them all out of the way. DP's merchandise are often little or shoddily made - the latest DVD offerings had the Season Two boxed set in complete out of order which is ignorance in the highest form. Yes, I think they should cut the fans some break, but again, it boils down to what I said before, Nickelodeon is a business, they really won't bother wasting more money making ads on a show that won't necessary bring them the greens that Spongebob can. It's not a move I enjoy as well and yes, it may, indeed, not be fair, but you guys are treating it as though it makes no sense or signals the end of TVdom. No, it doesn't. Shows come and go, canceled or not. They're businessmen and women and generally have a good idea what goes and what stays. And for good reasons (as I stated above). Nothing last forever.

3. "But we're a devoted, loyal fanbase! We're trying to save it/we love it. Doesn't that count for something?" Of course! It counts a lot. You love the show. I love the show. We're fans of the show. The petitions you gave are amazing (even though I didn't participate in any of them - sorry, I don't believe the series needed a fourth season). But the most DP has going is a strong cult following. I know you get a lot of people agreeing on DP's cancellation, but you have to remain yourself that this is merely the internet DP fans.

There are people out there who watch TV who doesn't have access to a computer or doesn't use the internet. Or hell, have one, but tends to just lurk around. The internet fans are only a portion of the fans, so how much of an average fanbase DP is remains unknown with the nielson ratings and other reliable TV rating sites giving in the estimated numbers. And to Nickelodeon, it's just not enough. It's often very rare for a network to renew a canceled show. But the chances of DP coming back with brand new episodes are nil. The series officially ended production in 2006, the last episodes aired in 2007, and Hartman has moved on. He is now involved in Fairly Oddparents and a new series entitled T.U.F.F Puppy coming out this year. I think he's moved on to greener pastures, too.

Conclusion Look, I get it. You guys love the show. I understand. I was upset when I heard it was canned, too, but guys, the series is done. You are allowed to feel upset over it, but you're often clouded with anger that you guys tend to jump the gun and leap into conclusions and accusations without any facts to back it up. Whether you like, hate, or just plain don't care about the network's decisions, a blind accusation tends to end up putting in more hurt then an educated guess or researched facts.

In the end, it's up to you guys to take in whatever I say with face value or a grain of salt. I just wanted to get this out of the clearing.

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Busoni Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2010  Student Artisan Crafter
I just can't believe there are people complaining about this after so long. Aside from the great points you made abouve..it's a cartoon, people. A CARTOON. YOU AREN'T GOING TO DIE.
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neoyi Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This has nothing to do with the topic, I just wanna say your icon is AWESOME.
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Busoni Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2010  Student Artisan Crafter
Thanks, damn thing took a while! Never was very good with the pixels, this contest deal was a good excuse.
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inked-confession Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2010
God. Finally a journal like this *laughs* I agree, Danny Phantom didn't need a 4th season. If it did have one, it'd probably end up like a genderbent Kim Possible, and even that show ended after another season. Danny Phantom was fun while it lasted, and he's still fun to talk about and draw :D And, to be lame, we must follow the wise words of the Beatles: "Let Danny Phantom Be."

What? They didn't say that? Ffft you're nuts XD
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neoyi Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Is a genderbent Kim Possible bad? The show was awesome.

Really. A 4th season might be doable if they answer some of the questions they didn't bother in Season 3 because the main writer left/was fired, but aside from the whole, "The series concluded nicely enough that I don't want another season", the only other reason why I don't want Season 4 is precisely because the main writer left. The new guys and Hartman didn't do a satisfying job in Season Three, so why would I want these same guys on a fourth one?
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inked-confession Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2010
I hate it when crud like that happens. Wasn't it season three when the episodes didn't even air in the right order? Problems problems. I just want to know why Butch insists on more FOP. Sure, there's more to experiment with in that show since Fairies can pretty much do anything, but I think he's stretching it a bit. There have been what, ten supposed-to-be finales? :D But I completely agree with you. I wouldn't want a fourth season, especially after that finale. (Like we're supposed to believe that everyone would just clap after discovering Danny's big secret. Jeebus.)
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neoyi Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Actually, Nickelodeon has been playing DP episodes out of order since Season One. Here's a complete list I wrote on the matter (scroll down a bit, it's the third one): [link]
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inked-confession Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2010
Woah. That's intense. Thanks for that :D That's rather unfortunate *laughs* Identity Crisis was my favorite episode, and funny thing is I'm pretty sure it was aired the least haha They played the Ember one so much I felt like they were actually trying to brainwash me XD Do you think Butch Hartman was that serious about Danny Phantom or was it just another excuse to get more money and whatnot?
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neoyi Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hartman enjoyed his time with DP and he even expressed the desire to make more. As far as I know, yes, he liked doing DP and not just for money's sake.
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inked-confession Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2010
Well that's good then :)
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princessbinas Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I even heard he wanted to make him cameo in Wishology and fight on of the Eliminators then go like "Oops, wrong show" and fly away. But Nick had to be a butt head and say no! That would have been funny to see Danny be his goofy and clueless self.
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silversister Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2010
The occasional healthy knock-on-the-head on the fan-dumb *as humane and relate-able their fan-dumbness might be...* never hurt anyone. ^_^

Also word on SpongeBob and all the back-slash it keeps getting.
The face-palming that I do whenever I hear "SpongeBob is responsible for turning our youth into a mass of blabbering cheap-humor idiots!" from our own generation of Ren & Stimpy-fans is very close to phenomenal. :roll:
And don't get me started on that "SpongeBob making our kids obese" BS just cause his toys and merchandise are available alongside a Happy Meal.
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Wingsong5555 Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2010
:O Actually, I always thought that Butch wanted to focus on other stuff. Oh well, at least I'm still me! :D
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neoyi Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hartman did express that he would make more DP episodes if it weren't canned, but since that is a moot point, he has since, moved on, to other projects.
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Wingsong5555 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2010
Really? He wanted to make more? :O
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neoyi Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yes. His words when he announced the cancellation back in 2006. But that was nearly four years ago and it's clear DP isn't coming back, so he gracefully moved on. *shrugs*
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Wingsong5555 Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2010
Well, at least the show hasn't been forgotten. (me looking on the bright side of things ^^; ) :shrug:
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princessbinas Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It may come back for a Ninth Anniversary.
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moonlitinuyasha1985 Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2010
Aww, that totally sucks that DP was canceled.:( I don't blame the crappy new shows for cancelling it only the idiots running Nick.
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neoyi Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Where have ya been? DP was canceled nearly four years ago. *grins*

I think you're missing the point of this journal. I did not, in anyway, condemn Nickelodeon or view them as "idiots" because they canned it. The journal was meant to tell why DP was canceled. Business is business and what they did is ultimately a smart move on their behave - there is NO reason to continue or waste money on a series that is barely giving them money and DP didn't give them money.
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moonlitinuyasha1985 Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2010
Well that's true.
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spirulina Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2010
It's nice to see someone thinking things through instead of RAAAAGING against a scapegoat. (I admit I feel annoyed at the insane amount of SpongeBob merchandise everywhere, but, hey, companies do need to make money to survive, and if that's what's selling...)

Well, I agree with you about Nick not producing any more episodes, it's just not likely at all, but I keep seeing Danny Phantom DVD's at my local stores over here in Mexico (they're probably being sold in the rest of Latinamerica, too. There's 3 of them already with some episodes, but no season boxes), and about half a year ago I saw the Urban Jungle game for the DS as a new release in one other store, so maybe Nick still sees a potential market (however small) for the series, even if it's outside the USA.

I still won't get my hopes, though. Danny Phantom was never very popular where I live -it was known, but I've only met ONE person in real life who really was a fan of it. And maybe Nick's just reaaaally slow to release the DVDs. I keep seeing Avatar: The Last Airbender DVDs popping up too.
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neoyi Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Keep in mind merchandising ranges in different countries. From what I've heard, DP did a better job over in the UK and Latin American area, hence why you guys over there may have better range or better attention to merchandises pertaining to DP.

Nickelodeon in Latin American is different from Nickelodeon USA. They're all the same company, but they handle their products and franchise differently based on what sells over in that particular country. In the US, DP isn't a huge cash cow.
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spirulina Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2010
I suppose that popularity in other countries still wouldn't be enough to get the show renewed, would it? :(
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neoyi Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Nickelodeon USA wouldn't have much concern on countries that isn't within their range.
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wolfjmk Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2010  Hobbyist Artist
OH my gosh you scared me. Ever thing you say is true but for a secound i thought you were stoping the Chess danny phantom
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neoyi Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ahaha. Nah. Not yet.
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wolfjmk Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2010  Hobbyist Artist
XD good because i love that comic your art work rocks if i had a scaner i would post my art -__- but i don't. By the why my favorite is the "some one likes us" one with tiny Daniel XD
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Aruman Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2010
Bunch of whiners I say. Do they not realize they can pretty much spam all of the fanfiction they want now that the plot no longer continues?
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shadow51090 Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2010  Student Traditional Artist
It shocks me that people are still upset about the show getting canceled....actually no, in my opinion the show wasn't canceled it ended. To me a canceled show (animated or otherwise) is when a show ends production mid-season and is just pulled off the air. Invader Zim was canceled is a good example. Also "Phantom Planet" left off with a good ending; the world is safe, Vlad got the boot, Danny and Sam are together done and done.
But to blame other shows is just childish and shows a lack of knowledge on their part.

On a side note I think if there was a 4th season, it would be like the last season of Kim Possible, with the two main characters together being lovey dovey over each other, and such I feel it wouldn't be that good of a season. If anything I'd want a feature length movie or something similar to wrap up a few plots points like Dark Danny n'stuff.
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ninitynine Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2014  Student General Artist
Phantom planet was a good ending? How can you say that? How can anyone say that? The entirety of Phantom Planet was crap, just that chapter was a world of plotholes. Let alone the entirety of season three. So yess, it does need a new saso, or better yet, a new series like xiaolin chronicles where season 3 eventes are like non-cannon. Then end is even worse when you think of what could have been, what marmel wanted to do with the show, bring back dark danny, make danny darker than edgier, a ultimate battle against his evil self, or so says the internet, and even though phantom planet was crap
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shadow51090 Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Wow, this is an old comment. I'm not sure how to reply to this really. Looking at it now yeah I guess Phantom Planet was a bad ending, but I mean it's still and ending.

For the most part there's a sense of closure outside of things like Dark Danny, and Vlad possibly seeking revenge. But other than that it's over, the conflict between humans and ghosts is done, Danny's identity is known around the world, and he's no longer ostracized for being who he is. It may not be the best but it's better than just leaving on a cliffhanger or something.

I'm going to level when I wrote that comment 4 years ago I was in a much different place in terms of how I view shows. Since then I've seen several shows finale some good, some bad, some terrible. Danny Phantom's ended on a mediocre note but at least it didn't become a shell of it's former self.

As for Xiaolin Showdown and Chronicles, Chronicles is honestly an embarrassment to the original's finale. After so much character growth and change for all the warriors especially Raimundo, only to reset everything to square one is kind of a joke. I wish they could have done something similar to what Korra did for ATLA, but they didn't. 
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neoyi Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Actually, I always thought Kim and Ron's romance was handled very well in Season Four. They didn't pepper every single episode with them making googly eyes with each other. Even better, their personality and chemistry with each other didn't drastically change to fit the required romance. Kim was still the confident chick who endures Ron's hapless, clumsiness. They still pretty much acted exactly as they did the past three seasons, only they were a couple.

In short, they didn't make it a BIG, HUUUUGE DEAL THAT IS OMG AWESOME, LOOK AT THEM KISS! They were casual about it and let it flow its own course. That's why I liked their romance. Because it wasn't a big deal.

It's actually why I hated Danny/Sam in Season Three. Because they devoted so much time to it that the unrelated, main story faltered and fall apart because they're too busy focusing Danny and Sam's blushes and romantic eye contacts.
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shadow51090 Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2010  Student Traditional Artist
I guess that's true, looking back they didn't over do it. Plus it was mainly Ron freaking out about it. I did notice that the end of DP it was a big deal for them to be together. The entire status quot was changed nothing would be the same ever.
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neoyi Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It's debatable if Season Three would have been the conclusion should DP had gone on its regular course (Marmel did have big plans that definitely sounded like a series finale, but who knows), but it's canceled. It still counts. They were just one of the slightly lucky ones in that Nickelodeon gave them 13 episodes instead of the usual 20, but you can tell because of said cancellation that Season Three's production was hurt because of it: new writers (some guest writers who didn't quite grasp the series), rushed jobs, loose plots still hanging. I'll have to disagree with you, that show was canned. Canned good. Mmmm, canned good. Tuuuuna.
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shadow51090 Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2010  Student Traditional Artist
I guess that's one way of looking at it. Kinda like the last season of Home Movies (don't know if you watched it) where they knew it was the last season before production was halted so they made really strange out there stories. I guess I didn't really notice since I haven't seen most of three (to busy watching other shows on the web). But oh well, the past is the past, new stuff to look forward to from Hartman.
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AndiWasHere Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree. Personally, I was one of the petitioners - if only to bring a natural end to the show. Once the "cancellation" word was dropped, everything seemed rushed and out of place. All TV shows must end someday or else they get old and redundant (I mean all shows, I still watch the Simpsons even after this long but I think they've gone way downhill in quality over the years) and I think that Danny Phantom's run was a good length. It could have stood to be a tad bit longer to help tie things up, but beggars can't be choosers. But anyway. It's time to stop pointing the finger and trying to "save" DP. Enjoy it for what it was, not for what it could have been.
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PhantomGoddess94 Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2010
I agree with you on this.

There are so many people blaming Spongebob for DP's cancellation, it's not even funny. I mean, I'm a long-time nicktoon fan- been that way since I learned what a TV was- and I've seen all the classics and the newer stuff. I mean, I don't blame the new crap for cancelling Codename: Kids Next Door, Foster's home for imaginary friend or anything else. Blaming another show just shows how stupid your being.

I, too am sad over the cancellation of DP, but I've gotten over the fact that it's gone and there will be no more episodes. Personally, I hated the last episode aired, but that's just my opinion not to mention our Hot Topic didn't get the t-shirts, which disappointed me.
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neoyi Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You could always shop for DP Hot Topic stuff online. Not right now though, I don't think there is any DP merch on their website at the moment. Lots of Nick Retros though. Legends of the Hidden Temple shirts!!!
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PhantomGoddess94 Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2010
I was thinking about it, but of course, I don't have a credit card. I'd have to ask my mom. But I saw those t-shirts in the actual store and they look really awesome :D
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DinKelion Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2010
Hehe, I agree with you. It ran it's course. I'll probably always wonder what it would be like if the intended audience for this series was actually for older teens/young adults (the possibilities make me giggle) and further wonder if that would have been enough to generate more episodes (while scrapping some of the episodes made to tie the entire series up for a later time.)
There's a lot of things I 'wish' could have happened, but it's all just a lovely fantasy to me. I mean, it's all up to the Internets now. No one will be seeing any new episodes unless there was a fanbase group of animators willing to make episode for free (that's a laugh). Add an appropriate script writer, and audio technicians/artists, and then someone to composit it all... Yeah, there's a reason why the series ended.

I tend to laugh when I see people bitching about the series ending to early. The only questions I have for the series when they ended is if season 3 would have been different had no one mentioned that it was going to be the final season. PP wouldn't have happened so soon, I'm sure. And we might have had a different ending involving Valerie's discovery of Vlad Master's secret. I mean, that episode just screamed 'Plot point' for another episode to follow it up.
Including the ever-waiting Dark Danny Phantom. It's what I always liked about the series! so much potential!

That's were I am, and I'm usually just happy that I'm not limited with money or others opinions to play out stories that could or could never (ever) happen. :D
Some people will never get over the cancellation of the series. I say, tough luck.
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neoyi Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Funny you should mention fan animation. There was a project that almost happened where a devoted group of fans would have imagined their own Season Three. The big twist over other fan projects, Steve Marmel was involved. They would have made the Season 3 Marmel originally envisioned. Unfortunately, it never got off the air.
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PrincessBetty1 Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Personally, I'm okay that DP got cancel, even though I'm not happy about it. But, it's part of the show. Like they say, it's dog eats dog world.
Of course, Spongebob, it's alright for little kids that are 7 to 12 years old. However, I don't like it very much. It's just not right sometimes, but I never believed that Spongebob stole DP's spotlight. I mean, there are new shows coming out even more! So, it's best to deal with!

I agree what you're saying.
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neoyi Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Spongebob Squarepants range is towards kids, but it has a wiiiiiiiiiiiide fanbase of both teens and college students. It's one of those cartoons that has a broad appeal to many people of age and that is one of the reason why it's so popular. So no, I do not think it is "alright just for 7 to 12" year old.
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PrincessBetty1 Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
When I said for the age of 7 to 12, I meant it would be more appropraite to start watching the show of Spongebob Sqaurepants, I'm not limiting the age or anything. Not for younger kids, when you think about it, you want kids to grow up in a smart envirnment, not laughing off every single day and pretend to be happy and such. Children needs to be expose to much more things than laughing and being happy. Of course, they need to learn something from the show as they grow up. Children can take things literally when they are young. It doesn't matter much to me for teens and college students to be watching, they're okay because they are already intelligence, so it's safe for them to watch.
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neoyi Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You act as though Spongebob Squarepants is the only show these kids are watching. Children may absorb elements like a (no pun intended) sponge, but that's cutting them a little too short. Children observe and notice things far greater then what is plastered on screen. Just because Looney Tunes blows up a coyote with dynamite, kids aren't going to take a TNT stick and do the same.

In short, children are a lot smarter then people give them credit for.
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PrincessBetty1 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
No, I don't think it's the only show for kids. I'm just saying. Of course, kids don't know how to get TNT stick and do it in real life. Yet, they can still learn too much like swearing words/cussing. They can pick up before you even know it. They like to try new things and stuff like that. I do believe children are a lot smarter than people give them, I mean, when I worked with one as a student teacher, one stopped and listen and realizes that something is wrong. I was shock that he wanted to punish himself for doing something wrong. It was unusual for me to hear that, but I do give him credit for being smart of himself.
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neoyi Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That's why kids have guidance from parents or other guardians. Parents' jobs are to influence their children to educate and learn what is needed for them to learn at their specific ages. Face it, it doesn't matter how young they are, there ARE going to be exposed to negative things (I was eight when I said my first curse) - it is foolish to think we can shield children from the harsh realities of life. What we can do is teach them how to properly behave and react to said "harsh realities".

A friend said it best, kids self-censor.
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PrincessBetty1 Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Good point. I guess I forget that parents can also influence children. It's just that, from my view, I never heard a swearing words until I was in 9th grade because I am deaf who is wearing hearing aids. I didn't know that children were picking up swearing words when they're younger, but I guess I'm from the different world from others, you know? It's just...the way I view on children show and swearing words, it's something parents should be careful and focus on. However, that's the parents' job to prevent all that.
Sure, I do understand that they need to be expose to reality and such, but sometimes, I think they could learn about it slowly so that way, they won't get beaten down so much with negative stuff (even though, I don't think childred get easily negative unless they're very sensitive towards something) and all. So, I do agree at some point. :shrug:
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Goku-san Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
I gave up on the whole "saving" a long time ago. It's done and over with. Move on. There's always the DVDs (if they ever actually put out proper ones).

Even if they brought back the show how the hell would they even make the fourth season? Since it's closed canon now. I don't think people have really thought about that.
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